I think it will come under the new disfellowshipping offence of "Brazen Conduct" details of which can be found in chapter 5 paragraph 9 of the secret elders manual of which I have a copy and I'm a girl!!!.
Amelia Ashton
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Celebrating birthday: ground for disfellowshipping?
by behemot ina friend of mine (inactive) is being threatened with a judicial committee because he took his children to schoolmates' birthdays and because he celebrated his wife's birthday.. do you know if celebrating birthday is sufficient ground for setting a judicial committee?.
the ks2010 does not mention birthdays specifically, and i feel like it would be quite a stretch to make it fall under the "apostasy" category (subcategory "celebrating false religion holidays" or "idolatry").. what do you think?.
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picture of JW child baptism ... link to news paper
by Aussie Oz ini won't post the picture as it may breach some copyright or something.
here is the link.
http://www.caller.com/photos/galleries/2010/aug/21/jehovahs-witnesses-baptism/.
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Amelia Ashton
Yet they condemn the Catholic Church for its practice of infant baptism!
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In your hall, how many converted to a JW from door to door in the last 10 years?
by just n from bethel inin mine that would be a big fat zero.. there have been a handful of teenage baptisms of jw children.. one that really was a foreign language group transfer.. but in the last ten years - there has not been one single convert from the d2d ministry.. btw - my congregation has had over 10 pioneers (real ones that actually do d2d, including elders) for the last decade.. not one.
10 x 70 hours a month x 120 months = 84,000 hours ... results = 0.. also most of our pioneers are pretty good at the door - some half way decent teachers.
one is sub co and another often is called to teach ... wait for it ... pioneer school!!!.
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Amelia Ashton
Me, I was converted through d2d. I only brought in 2 people but both were friends prior to me becoming JW.
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The uncomfortable truth about mind control: Is free will simply a myth?
by baltar447 inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-mind-control-is-free-will-simply-a-myth-2177014.html .
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Amelia Ashton
We have a guy over here in UK called Derren Brown. He "persuaded" professional people to believe in God just by touching them, believe he had been abducted by aliens, read their minds, speak to their dead friends and relatives by passing on convincing facts and then ultimately he got 4 people to individually commit an armed robbery. He does loads of other amazing stuff but fully admits to not being psychic or having any special powers whatsover. He used to belong to a happy clappy evangelical branch of christendom but is now an atheist.
My point is, although we have free will Derren Brown has proved most but not all of us can be manipulated to do not just the will of others with no knowledge or awareness of being manipulated but something that actually goes against what we would normally allow ourselves to do. It is the ones doing the manipulation that should be held accountable not the willing puppets. The GB have harnessed people's general need to "belong" feel loved, to feel slightly better/knowledgable/qualified or in some way special. And then they kept us in this maleable state using fear until something woke us up.
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What makes the GB better than the average JW???
by shadowolf inat a past convention i went to a bethel meeting during the lunch break.
it was geared towards young people who wanted to dedicate themselves to bethel service...yuck.
anyway, as the boring program went on, an older brother spoke of how, if you went to bethel, you would be living with the gb.
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Amelia Ashton
If they are having regular chats with the big man upstairs it would feel like they had some sort of celebrity status to the mere mortals that follow them. However, knowing that they don't and they are making it all up as they go along it kinda makes you feel a bit sick.
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Am I wrong or would I have better chances for "Paradise earth" if I had never been exposed to the so called "Truth"?
by KristiKay ini was listening to a guy on youtube, (21 crosscheck 21) and i thought he brought up a pretty valid point.
he says jws should stop preaching immediatly because according to them if i've never heard the "truth" then god would read my heart and i would be resurrected and given the chance to live forever.
so basicly if some idiot knocks on my door trying to tell me the "good news" and for whatever reason i slam the door in their face, i've just condemed myself to eternal nothingness, but if they never came to the door in the first place, i'd be ok, or at least given the chance to pet lions forever?
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Amelia Ashton
Practising JWs only hope they might be saved, no guarantees. The wages sin pays is death, so, as I thought my toxic parents would be alive at the big A they would be killed and I would live. Now they are very old and more likely to die before Armageddon so will therefore be resurrected but me, according to JW doctrine who wasted most of my adult life pushing their filthy magazines tire out minutes befoe the big A will now die. That's fair!!!
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little cantleave wants to say hi
by nugget inmy son wants to say hi to everyone on the forum.
as one of the main drivers to us exiting the cult he is very excited about never going to a meeting again.. if i knew how to load pictures i would let you see his plan for christmas lights next year.
apparently we are having a sleigh with reigndeers.
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Amelia Ashton
Hi Little Cantleave
See if your Mum and Dad will let you put your decorations up in September like me!! We got a lotta wasted years to make up for. xxx
Lots of love, Amelia Emma and Tiara and the latest addition to our family who you haven't met yet "Ollie"
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I told my daughter I was leaving "the truth" this weekend.
by whathappened inlast week, i told you i was going to tell my daughter that i was leaving the truth this weekend and you all gave me sound advice.
but, i cannot keep a secret this heavy from the person i love most on this earth, my only daughter, who is beautiful inside and out.. well, i have always had an open and honest relationship with my daughter, and i guess it paid off.
this weekend i visited my daughter (who lives in another state) and i told her i was leaving "the truth.
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Amelia Ashton
I hope your daughter appreciates what a wonderful Mother she has.
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Where Are You From?
by finallysomepride inalot of members don't have a flag or country name beside their user name, and well frequently one doesn't know where that particular person is from, tell us your country, state, county or what ever you feel like giving out.
if you are going to post please at least devulge your country.. me, i'm originally from taranaki, new zealand via auckland.
for the most of this decade i have been living & working in brisbane, queensland, australia.. .
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Amelia Ashton
England
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The Wealth of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society In The UK !!
by Hairyhegoat injust found these figures for the uk circut assembly halls and my jaw dropped when i saw how much money they all have in the bank!!.
here are some stats from the uk, well start off with some of the uk assembly halls.. .
the surrey assembly hall of jehovahs witnesses is sitting with just under a cool 4 million in the bank.
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Amelia Ashton
Are these figures available for KHs too? I remember Horndean Cong. alway had a few grand surplus each month but in Spain we got the widows mite scripture every single month cos we were always a few euros short each month.